September 19, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Jesus.
I heard the discussion between you and the other man about my blood saving from sin, and I felt that you were not benefited by what was said, because his faith is based on ignorance of the true plan of salvation and my mission on earth.
But he is so firmly fixed in his belief that no argument that you might make would convince him that anything but my death and atonement could save from sin. So I do not think it would do any good to attempt to argue with any of these people in reference to the matter of my blood as the means of salvation.
They have received the Divine Love to a considerable degree and the Holy Spirit is with them in their worship and is in their hearts, but it does not come to them by reason of their belief in my atonement, but because they pray to the Father for its coming and making them a new being so far as their soul development is concerned. They do not know that only the flowing of this Divine Love into their hearts in answer to prayer is what gives them this New Birth.
They think that my blood has something, or rather that it is the great and only cause of this New Birth and they will continue to think so. I would not let this matter deter you from attending their meetings because, as I have said, the spirit is present with them. Of course, they will learn differently when they come to the spirit world and see that I am not God.
Yes, I know that is what all the orthodox believe but that does not make it a fact, for no devil ever comes and teaches the things that I have written you.
I will not write more now. So with the assurance that I am with you very often, and that I will guide you in the ways of truth, I will stop.
Your brother and friend,
Jesus
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Thursday, November 29, 2012
Monday, November 19, 2012
St. John Writes That He Never Wrote the Doctrine that Jesus' Blood Saves Men From Sin
September 12, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, John.
I do not write St. John, because I am not called by that name in the spirit heavens, and I have written you often enough now, that you will identify me when I merely write John.
Well, I heard what the Master said, and I can only add thereto, that I never wrote the things which declare that I preached that the blood of Jesus saves from sin or that Jesus was a propitiation for the sins of mankind. Neither in my Gospel nor in my Epistles nor in Revelation did I write such a doctrine. As I have told you before many things contained in these books were written by others to carry out certain plans and ideas of the writers. I never said that Jesus was God and that he was begotten by the Holy Ghost, or that he is equal with God, or that he saved a man from sin by reason of any personal qualities which he may have had.
So let your mind eliminate these false doctrines and receive the truths which the Master shall write with a perfectly unbiased mind, free from all preconceived ideas.
I meant that many spirits would try to communicate with man and attempt to teach false doctrines as to Jesus and his mission.
That the only spirits who were capable of conveying the truth, and worthy of belief were those who should acknowledge that Jesus was the son of God in the way that it has been explained to you. Not that Jesus or Jesus Christ was God. Only those spirits who acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God and have received the New Birth, and know anything about the kingdom of Christ, or of the gift of the Divine Love of the Father, and the way to obtain it, as taught by Jesus, should be acknowledged. All other spirits who have not this knowledge and, consequently, would not acknowledge Jesus as the son of God, who should hear his teachings, is not to be trusted as being true followers of Jesus.
This is nothing mysterious or contrary to the laws governing the conduct or beliefs of men. If a spirit or man either, knows nothing about a certain subject he certainly cannot teach others its qualities or merits, and, hence, I was applying an ordinary law of nature to the way in which spirits should be tried. For I must tell you now, and it is a truth, and was a truth at the time I wrote my gospel and epistles, just as it is a truth now, and always will remain a truth, that every spirit who acknowledges that Jesus is the son of God is a redeemed spirit, and has received a portion of the Divine Love, and is progressing in the kingdom which Jesus is now forming. And when I gave those instructions to my children, as I called them, I intended that their communications should be only with those spirits or men who had received this New Birth.
I know that all the spirits who have received this Divine Love in sufficient abundance are good spirits, free from sin and error and (with) the power or inclination to influence mortals not to sin or to do anything which is contrary to the Will of the Father, while all the other spirits may or may not exercise upon mortals the influence of evil.
Hence, try the spirits, and if they do not acknowledge Jesus as the son of God, let them alone, and do not receive their communications or teachings, because they are not believers in Christ and the New Birth.
Among my children or believers in the Christian religion were many persons who had the power or gift of communicating with the spirits of the departed, and did so communicate; and such communications were made known to the rest of the congregation and believed by them. And hence, my injunction against communion with those spirits who were not believers in Christ.
You must not think that this is the only age in which spirits communicate with mortals, for I must tell you that in my time it was much more common than now; and in our congregations when worshipping and when in our other gatherings, and often in private, we had these communications.
This was an important part of the services of our meetings, and one that kept us in constant harmony with the soul power of those who lived in the spirit form, and from whom we received powers of healing and of doing good in many other ways.
In those days healing the sick and doing kindred things were a very important part of our work as Christians. We believed what Jesus had told us on earth, and we increased our faith and performed many works, which the people who did not believe as we did, thought were miracles. To us the healing of the sick and the doing of these other things were just as natural as eating and sleeping. I tell you that our faith then was a certainty. We possessed the Substance that Paul speaks of, and we expected to do the things just as we expected to breathe and be able to do material good to our brothers.
But after a few centuries, when men came into the church for other purposes than to receive the New Birth and do the will of the Father, faith, such as I speak of, died, and the power to do these things was taken away from men, and the church became a congregation of men having the mere lip worship.
And all through the centuries from then until now, this power has not been with men, except that here and there some true believer with a faith such as we had has appeared, and done wonderful things.
So I say, let not what the Bible may say about Jesus being God and having those other qualities with reference to the salvation of men, disturb you in your beliefs in what the Master may write you.
I will not write more tonight, but will say goodnight.
Your brother in Christ,
John
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, John.
I do not write St. John, because I am not called by that name in the spirit heavens, and I have written you often enough now, that you will identify me when I merely write John.
Well, I heard what the Master said, and I can only add thereto, that I never wrote the things which declare that I preached that the blood of Jesus saves from sin or that Jesus was a propitiation for the sins of mankind. Neither in my Gospel nor in my Epistles nor in Revelation did I write such a doctrine. As I have told you before many things contained in these books were written by others to carry out certain plans and ideas of the writers. I never said that Jesus was God and that he was begotten by the Holy Ghost, or that he is equal with God, or that he saved a man from sin by reason of any personal qualities which he may have had.
So let your mind eliminate these false doctrines and receive the truths which the Master shall write with a perfectly unbiased mind, free from all preconceived ideas.
I meant that many spirits would try to communicate with man and attempt to teach false doctrines as to Jesus and his mission.
That the only spirits who were capable of conveying the truth, and worthy of belief were those who should acknowledge that Jesus was the son of God in the way that it has been explained to you. Not that Jesus or Jesus Christ was God. Only those spirits who acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God and have received the New Birth, and know anything about the kingdom of Christ, or of the gift of the Divine Love of the Father, and the way to obtain it, as taught by Jesus, should be acknowledged. All other spirits who have not this knowledge and, consequently, would not acknowledge Jesus as the son of God, who should hear his teachings, is not to be trusted as being true followers of Jesus.
This is nothing mysterious or contrary to the laws governing the conduct or beliefs of men. If a spirit or man either, knows nothing about a certain subject he certainly cannot teach others its qualities or merits, and, hence, I was applying an ordinary law of nature to the way in which spirits should be tried. For I must tell you now, and it is a truth, and was a truth at the time I wrote my gospel and epistles, just as it is a truth now, and always will remain a truth, that every spirit who acknowledges that Jesus is the son of God is a redeemed spirit, and has received a portion of the Divine Love, and is progressing in the kingdom which Jesus is now forming. And when I gave those instructions to my children, as I called them, I intended that their communications should be only with those spirits or men who had received this New Birth.
I know that all the spirits who have received this Divine Love in sufficient abundance are good spirits, free from sin and error and (with) the power or inclination to influence mortals not to sin or to do anything which is contrary to the Will of the Father, while all the other spirits may or may not exercise upon mortals the influence of evil.
Hence, try the spirits, and if they do not acknowledge Jesus as the son of God, let them alone, and do not receive their communications or teachings, because they are not believers in Christ and the New Birth.
Among my children or believers in the Christian religion were many persons who had the power or gift of communicating with the spirits of the departed, and did so communicate; and such communications were made known to the rest of the congregation and believed by them. And hence, my injunction against communion with those spirits who were not believers in Christ.
You must not think that this is the only age in which spirits communicate with mortals, for I must tell you that in my time it was much more common than now; and in our congregations when worshipping and when in our other gatherings, and often in private, we had these communications.
This was an important part of the services of our meetings, and one that kept us in constant harmony with the soul power of those who lived in the spirit form, and from whom we received powers of healing and of doing good in many other ways.
In those days healing the sick and doing kindred things were a very important part of our work as Christians. We believed what Jesus had told us on earth, and we increased our faith and performed many works, which the people who did not believe as we did, thought were miracles. To us the healing of the sick and the doing of these other things were just as natural as eating and sleeping. I tell you that our faith then was a certainty. We possessed the Substance that Paul speaks of, and we expected to do the things just as we expected to breathe and be able to do material good to our brothers.
But after a few centuries, when men came into the church for other purposes than to receive the New Birth and do the will of the Father, faith, such as I speak of, died, and the power to do these things was taken away from men, and the church became a congregation of men having the mere lip worship.
And all through the centuries from then until now, this power has not been with men, except that here and there some true believer with a faith such as we had has appeared, and done wonderful things.
So I say, let not what the Bible may say about Jesus being God and having those other qualities with reference to the salvation of men, disturb you in your beliefs in what the Master may write you.
I will not write more tonight, but will say goodnight.
Your brother in Christ,
John
Saturday, November 17, 2012
Jesus Writes That He Does Not Approve of the Reference that His Blood Saves Men from Sin
September 12, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Jesus.
I was with you tonight and saw that the Spirit was filling your heart with the Divine Love of the Father and that you realized its presence, and felt that even though the people who worshipped me in their ignorance, yet, they have this Love of the Father to a great degree.
I do not approve of their frequent reference to my blood as saving them from their sins and keeping them in the grace and favor of the Father, for as I have told you, my blood has nothing to do with the salvation of any soul - only the Divine Love of the Father saves a soul from sin and makes it one with the Father in His Love and divinity.
But, nevertheless, these people have this Love in their hearts, and while with their intellects they look upon me as God, yet, their souls are turning to God and, consequently, they receive the blessings of the Father's Love and are receiving to a large extent the development of their souls.
I am glad that you attend these meetings (The Church of the Holiness, Washington, D. C.), for in them is a wonderful presence of the Spirit and the Love of the Father, and while you may not be in sympathy with their doctrines as to who and what saves them from sin and unrighteousness, yet, the influence of the Spirit is so great that it helps your soul development.
I tried to influence the speakers to tell just what the conditions of their souls were, and what experience they had in receiving and enjoying the Divine Love; and many of them experience and have as a part of their religious possession just what they said they had.
It will be beneficial to you to attend this church, and get the benefit of the presence of the Holy Spirit, which is with them in their worship.
I was with you and tried to make you feel my presence, and I did, and you felt a little exaltation of your soul qualities and enjoyed the services, especially the singing and the prayers.
So while you must not be influenced by their doctrines as to my being God or to be worshipped, yet, if you will ignore this and only consider that their real worship is of God and that their souls are in unison with Him, you will find that these services will do you much good.
I am with you very much and am trying to get you relieved from the worries which come to you. I am also trying to help you get in that spiritual condition, which is necessary in order for you to take and continue my formal messages.
Yes, you are and I am glad that it is so. I want you to become a man so possessed of this Love and of faith, so strong that nothing that you may encounter will swerve you from your convictions and from your work. I see that you are anxious to continue this work and you will soon be able to do so.
Yes, I know that the Bible iterates and reiterates the statement that I am God, and that my blood saves from sin, and that I am a propitiation for mankind, but nevertheless, the Bible is all wrong, and these false doctrines must be corrected and men taught the true plan of salvation. I will be with you very often until we have commenced our work in the way that we desire to carry it forward. Let not anything that you may read in the Bible cause you to have a conception that may not agree with what I shall write. Let your mind be blank on these truths and wait until I shall disclose them to you, and believe me.
John never wrote these statements as contained in his epistles and gospel, and he will write to you denying that he did. The Bible contains many truths and many of my sayings but also, many statements that were never made by me or by the apostles, and my mission now is to correct all these errors. So you see we have much work ahead of us and we must commence it as soon as possible.
I am with you tonight to comfort and encourage you and help you to overcome not only your worries, and if you will only pray to the Father and believe, you will be successful in both particulars. I will not write more tonight as others are here to write, and I desire that they shall do so.
Your brother and friend,
Jesus
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Jesus.
I was with you tonight and saw that the Spirit was filling your heart with the Divine Love of the Father and that you realized its presence, and felt that even though the people who worshipped me in their ignorance, yet, they have this Love of the Father to a great degree.
I do not approve of their frequent reference to my blood as saving them from their sins and keeping them in the grace and favor of the Father, for as I have told you, my blood has nothing to do with the salvation of any soul - only the Divine Love of the Father saves a soul from sin and makes it one with the Father in His Love and divinity.
But, nevertheless, these people have this Love in their hearts, and while with their intellects they look upon me as God, yet, their souls are turning to God and, consequently, they receive the blessings of the Father's Love and are receiving to a large extent the development of their souls.
I am glad that you attend these meetings (The Church of the Holiness, Washington, D. C.), for in them is a wonderful presence of the Spirit and the Love of the Father, and while you may not be in sympathy with their doctrines as to who and what saves them from sin and unrighteousness, yet, the influence of the Spirit is so great that it helps your soul development.
I tried to influence the speakers to tell just what the conditions of their souls were, and what experience they had in receiving and enjoying the Divine Love; and many of them experience and have as a part of their religious possession just what they said they had.
It will be beneficial to you to attend this church, and get the benefit of the presence of the Holy Spirit, which is with them in their worship.
I was with you and tried to make you feel my presence, and I did, and you felt a little exaltation of your soul qualities and enjoyed the services, especially the singing and the prayers.
So while you must not be influenced by their doctrines as to my being God or to be worshipped, yet, if you will ignore this and only consider that their real worship is of God and that their souls are in unison with Him, you will find that these services will do you much good.
I am with you very much and am trying to get you relieved from the worries which come to you. I am also trying to help you get in that spiritual condition, which is necessary in order for you to take and continue my formal messages.
Yes, you are and I am glad that it is so. I want you to become a man so possessed of this Love and of faith, so strong that nothing that you may encounter will swerve you from your convictions and from your work. I see that you are anxious to continue this work and you will soon be able to do so.
Yes, I know that the Bible iterates and reiterates the statement that I am God, and that my blood saves from sin, and that I am a propitiation for mankind, but nevertheless, the Bible is all wrong, and these false doctrines must be corrected and men taught the true plan of salvation. I will be with you very often until we have commenced our work in the way that we desire to carry it forward. Let not anything that you may read in the Bible cause you to have a conception that may not agree with what I shall write. Let your mind be blank on these truths and wait until I shall disclose them to you, and believe me.
John never wrote these statements as contained in his epistles and gospel, and he will write to you denying that he did. The Bible contains many truths and many of my sayings but also, many statements that were never made by me or by the apostles, and my mission now is to correct all these errors. So you see we have much work ahead of us and we must commence it as soon as possible.
I am with you tonight to comfort and encourage you and help you to overcome not only your worries, and if you will only pray to the Father and believe, you will be successful in both particulars. I will not write more tonight as others are here to write, and I desire that they shall do so.
Your brother and friend,
Jesus
Tuesday, November 13, 2012
St. John Writes That His Revelation as Contained in the Bible Was Merely a Vision He Had While in a Trance
September 7, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, John of the Revelation.
I saw you studying the Bible, or rather those portions of the book which treated of the salvation of mankind through the blood of Jesus, and that you made extracts from the Revelation, which declared that the blood of Jesus washed away sins of mankind and redeemed them.
Well, I want to say that while I wrote a Revelation or rather dictated it to another to write, I never wrote the words declaring the salvation of mankind through the blood of Jesus, which declared that the blood of Jesus washed away sins of mankind and redeemed them, for I did not believe any such doctrine and had never been taught such a belief by Jesus.
Much of the matter contained in the Revelation I never wrote; but men or scribes who professed to copy the description of my vision, added to it for the purpose of incorporating therein the views of the Christians of that early day, so that their views might be emphasized and in union with similar views that had been added to the Gospels and Epistles in the copies which these same persons or their predecessors in these views had made.
The Revelation is merely a vision which I had when in a trance and was undoubtedly intended to illustrate or predict those things which would be visited upon the believers and the nonbelievers in the truths of God as taught by Jesus and his apostles.
At the present day, I cannot see that this book can serve any good purpose in making men acquainted with the truths of God, or with the relationship of man to God. Many of the things therein contained are not true as a Truth, but were used merely to illustrate a truth. There are no streets of gold or pearly gates or dragons or beasts or white horse or other material things which are depicted in that book; and it is valuable only so far as imagery may show to mankind some spiritual truth.
And besides it has been so embellished and added to, that many of its figures or images do not illustrate any truth, or anything else, but merely serves to give the book the character and appearance of a book of mysteries.
So I advise you in attempting to search for the truths that the Bible contains, do not waste your time in trying to discover the meanings of the various dark sayings and mysterious descriptions which this book contains.
There are enough truths in the Bible, though mixed with many errors, to lead men to the light and to salvation. Love is the great principle, and the fact that God is waiting to bestow that Love on mankind, if they will only seek for it, as it is the principle which is sufficient to lead men to the Celestial homes and happiness.
I am not an advocate of all the "isms" which men draw or formulate from the Bible, but on the contrary, deplore and condemn the misconstruction of the truths which it contains, and which men may understand, if they will search for them in humbleness and in the spirit of a little child.
But whatever of errors may be written in the Bible will be shown by the messages which Jesus shall write to you, and after they are transmitted and made known to mankind there will be no occasion for men to accept or believe these errors.
So I tell you that while the Bible, even as now written, is a grand old book, yet, it is not the true mouthpiece of God in very many particulars, and is a stumbling block to man's acquiring a correct knowledge of the truths of God.
These truths will not conflict with the reasoning of the normal man who is not prejudiced by views which are erroneous, either in the scientific or the religious world.
A man who believes what is not true is just as much an infidel whether that belief relates to the sciences or to religion. A belief in the false is a want of belief in the true and, hence, as to the true, he is not a believer. I will not write more tonight.
So will say goodnight and God bless you and your work.
Your brother in Christ,
John of Revelation
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, John of the Revelation.
I saw you studying the Bible, or rather those portions of the book which treated of the salvation of mankind through the blood of Jesus, and that you made extracts from the Revelation, which declared that the blood of Jesus washed away sins of mankind and redeemed them.
Well, I want to say that while I wrote a Revelation or rather dictated it to another to write, I never wrote the words declaring the salvation of mankind through the blood of Jesus, which declared that the blood of Jesus washed away sins of mankind and redeemed them, for I did not believe any such doctrine and had never been taught such a belief by Jesus.
Much of the matter contained in the Revelation I never wrote; but men or scribes who professed to copy the description of my vision, added to it for the purpose of incorporating therein the views of the Christians of that early day, so that their views might be emphasized and in union with similar views that had been added to the Gospels and Epistles in the copies which these same persons or their predecessors in these views had made.
The Revelation is merely a vision which I had when in a trance and was undoubtedly intended to illustrate or predict those things which would be visited upon the believers and the nonbelievers in the truths of God as taught by Jesus and his apostles.
At the present day, I cannot see that this book can serve any good purpose in making men acquainted with the truths of God, or with the relationship of man to God. Many of the things therein contained are not true as a Truth, but were used merely to illustrate a truth. There are no streets of gold or pearly gates or dragons or beasts or white horse or other material things which are depicted in that book; and it is valuable only so far as imagery may show to mankind some spiritual truth.
And besides it has been so embellished and added to, that many of its figures or images do not illustrate any truth, or anything else, but merely serves to give the book the character and appearance of a book of mysteries.
So I advise you in attempting to search for the truths that the Bible contains, do not waste your time in trying to discover the meanings of the various dark sayings and mysterious descriptions which this book contains.
There are enough truths in the Bible, though mixed with many errors, to lead men to the light and to salvation. Love is the great principle, and the fact that God is waiting to bestow that Love on mankind, if they will only seek for it, as it is the principle which is sufficient to lead men to the Celestial homes and happiness.
I am not an advocate of all the "isms" which men draw or formulate from the Bible, but on the contrary, deplore and condemn the misconstruction of the truths which it contains, and which men may understand, if they will search for them in humbleness and in the spirit of a little child.
But whatever of errors may be written in the Bible will be shown by the messages which Jesus shall write to you, and after they are transmitted and made known to mankind there will be no occasion for men to accept or believe these errors.
So I tell you that while the Bible, even as now written, is a grand old book, yet, it is not the true mouthpiece of God in very many particulars, and is a stumbling block to man's acquiring a correct knowledge of the truths of God.
These truths will not conflict with the reasoning of the normal man who is not prejudiced by views which are erroneous, either in the scientific or the religious world.
A man who believes what is not true is just as much an infidel whether that belief relates to the sciences or to religion. A belief in the false is a want of belief in the true and, hence, as to the true, he is not a believer. I will not write more tonight.
So will say goodnight and God bless you and your work.
Your brother in Christ,
John of Revelation
Sunday, November 11, 2012
Jesus Repeats What He Has Written Before That His Blood Does Not Save Men from Sin
September 5, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Jesus.
I was with you tonight and heard what you said about the Bible and its writers, and I desire to say that many things in it were not written by my disciples or by those to whom my disciples had delivered the sayings that I made use of while on earth.
The text as contained in the present Bible is not a true copy of what I said, or what was in the manuscripts of those who originally wrote, and I am trying to correct the many errors that the Bible contains.
Well, the sayings in the Epistles and in the Gospels and in Revelation to the effect that my blood saves from sin are erroneous, and my disciples never wrote that false doctrine, for I repeat here what I have before written you, that my blood has nothing to do with the redemption of mankind from sin, nor has my blood any effect in reconciling men to God or making them one with Him. The only thing that works this great result is the New Birth as I have explained it to you. So do not let these sayings of the Bible disturb your belief in what I say now, or in what I may hereafter say.
Well, the Revelation of John is not true. It is a mere allegory and not just as he wrote it, for it contains many things that are absurd and not in accord with the truths as I shall write them to you. He has written you already on the "Revelations" and told you what he did not write, as he has been annoyed by this book of the Bible and its interpretations by the preachers and others. It is nothing but a revelation of a vision which he thought he saw while in a trance, as you mortals say. I mean that the real Revelation that he wrote is only the vision of a trance. So let not these things disturb you.
I see that you are getting more of the Divine Love in your soul, and your spiritual eyes will be opened, and your soul perceptions will, before long, see and understand many of the vital truths of God.
I will not write more tonight. With all my love, I am,
Your brother and friend,
Jesus
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Jesus.
I was with you tonight and heard what you said about the Bible and its writers, and I desire to say that many things in it were not written by my disciples or by those to whom my disciples had delivered the sayings that I made use of while on earth.
The text as contained in the present Bible is not a true copy of what I said, or what was in the manuscripts of those who originally wrote, and I am trying to correct the many errors that the Bible contains.
Well, the sayings in the Epistles and in the Gospels and in Revelation to the effect that my blood saves from sin are erroneous, and my disciples never wrote that false doctrine, for I repeat here what I have before written you, that my blood has nothing to do with the redemption of mankind from sin, nor has my blood any effect in reconciling men to God or making them one with Him. The only thing that works this great result is the New Birth as I have explained it to you. So do not let these sayings of the Bible disturb your belief in what I say now, or in what I may hereafter say.
Well, the Revelation of John is not true. It is a mere allegory and not just as he wrote it, for it contains many things that are absurd and not in accord with the truths as I shall write them to you. He has written you already on the "Revelations" and told you what he did not write, as he has been annoyed by this book of the Bible and its interpretations by the preachers and others. It is nothing but a revelation of a vision which he thought he saw while in a trance, as you mortals say. I mean that the real Revelation that he wrote is only the vision of a trance. So let not these things disturb you.
I see that you are getting more of the Divine Love in your soul, and your spiritual eyes will be opened, and your soul perceptions will, before long, see and understand many of the vital truths of God.
I will not write more tonight. With all my love, I am,
Your brother and friend,
Jesus
Saturday, November 10, 2012
Ann Rollins Writes That God's Divine Love Saves Us From Sin, Not the Great Error - the Blood of Jesus
September 5, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I will say a word also. I am your own dear Grandmother.
I came to tell you that I know now that the blood of Jesus does not save from sin.
You will remember how, when on earth, I believed this doctrine of error. How I used to talk about the precious blood of Jesus being able to save from all sin and used to sing with all my heart and belief in the old hymn: "There is a fountain filled with blood," and so forth. Well, I know now that that belief is all wrong, and that Jesus is so anxious to have men learn that it is a great error and stumbling block to the soul's progression.
Of course, I know that a vast majority of those now living will never believe that this saying of the Bible is erroneous until they come to the spirit world, but if they only could be taught to throw aside this belief and rely entirely on the Divine Love for their salvation while on earth, how much easier their progress would be when they come over. So you see, that while many say that a belief does not amount to much, yet, I tell you that it causes more unhappiness and retards the progress of spirits to a greater extent than any other one thing.
I know that only the Divine Love of the Father saves from sin and makes mortals at-one with Him. So in your work for the Master, you will have to make great efforts to cause people to give up this belief in the blood, and turn to the truth of the New Birth.
Many of the orthodox will oppose your efforts and refuse to believe what you may tell them to be the truth, but many will believe and seek this New Birth and find the peace and happiness of a soul whose sins have been forgiven.
I must not write more tonight. I will come again soon and tell you more of the result of your work among the unfortunate spirits who seek your help. So my dear son, I will say goodnight.
Your loving Grandmother,
Ann Rollins
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I will say a word also. I am your own dear Grandmother.
I came to tell you that I know now that the blood of Jesus does not save from sin.
You will remember how, when on earth, I believed this doctrine of error. How I used to talk about the precious blood of Jesus being able to save from all sin and used to sing with all my heart and belief in the old hymn: "There is a fountain filled with blood," and so forth. Well, I know now that that belief is all wrong, and that Jesus is so anxious to have men learn that it is a great error and stumbling block to the soul's progression.
Of course, I know that a vast majority of those now living will never believe that this saying of the Bible is erroneous until they come to the spirit world, but if they only could be taught to throw aside this belief and rely entirely on the Divine Love for their salvation while on earth, how much easier their progress would be when they come over. So you see, that while many say that a belief does not amount to much, yet, I tell you that it causes more unhappiness and retards the progress of spirits to a greater extent than any other one thing.
I know that only the Divine Love of the Father saves from sin and makes mortals at-one with Him. So in your work for the Master, you will have to make great efforts to cause people to give up this belief in the blood, and turn to the truth of the New Birth.
Many of the orthodox will oppose your efforts and refuse to believe what you may tell them to be the truth, but many will believe and seek this New Birth and find the peace and happiness of a soul whose sins have been forgiven.
I must not write more tonight. I will come again soon and tell you more of the result of your work among the unfortunate spirits who seek your help. So my dear son, I will say goodnight.
Your loving Grandmother,
Ann Rollins
Friday, November 9, 2012
St. Luke Writes About the Errors That Others Wrote in His Gospel of the Bible and That This Saying That "The Blood of Jesus Saves From Sin," is Not True
September 5, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I will write a little as I am interested in what you have received from Luther tonight. And as I am supposed to have written the Gospel of Luke, I desire to say a few things in reference to the correctness - or rather incorrectness of many things contained in my gospel.
As you infer, I am St. Luke. the writer of the third gospel and a follower of Jesus.
My Gospel was not founded on anything I had personal knowledge of, but upon the writings of others and the traditions, which were the common knowledge of many Christians at that time. I knew several of the apostles and obtained much of my information from them, as well as from many of the Christians who were members of the congregations to which these apostles preached and expounded the sayings of Jesus.
In my gospel, as now contained in the authorized version, there are many things that have been interpolated. This version was not based on what I wrote, but upon pretended copies of my writings; and the persons who made these copies did not follow literally my writings, but added to my text and gave their own interpretations of what I had written in such a way as to destroy the true meaning of what was intended to be conveyed by my writings.
There are many truths contained in the gospel as now written in the Bible, and they are the truths of God, but there are also many errors which contradict these truths. For instance, I never wrote that Jesus commanded his disciples to believe that the wine was his blood or the bread his body, and to eat and drink these things in remembrance of him. How this interpolation could have been made I do not know, but will observe that the same things are said in all the four gospels, and this saying must have been derived from a common source, and that must have been the minds of those who pretended to copy the gospels.
I tell you now that this saying, that the blood of Jesus saves from sin, is not true, and if men depend upon this blood for their salvation they will never be saved, but will enter the spirit world in all their sins, and will be surprised to learn that Jesus is not waiting to receive them in his arms and carry them to the mansions prepared for the truly redeemed of the sons of men.
I know that a vast number of the members of the various churches believe this harmful doctrine and that, as a consequence, many persons claiming to be Christians will realize that their sins have not been forgiven them when they come into the spirit world.
Sometime, as these writings continue, I will point out the errors of my gospel to an extent that will show you the fact of what great additions and misinterpretations have been made thereto. I will stop now.
Your brother in Christ,
St. Luke
Thursday, November 8, 2012
Martin Luther Writes That "No Greater Error Was Ever Written Than That the Blood of Jesus Saves From Sin - or That His Blood Washes Away Sin."
September 5, 1915
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Luther - Martin Luther.
I came again because I want to tell you that I was with you this afternoon when you were reading the comments on the origin and different versions of the Bible. Among them was a reference to my version, and I want to say that while my version was a pretty correct translation, yet, the manuscripts and other versions upon which I based my translation were not the real writings of those who profess to have written them. I mean that those manuscripts were not true copies of the original epistles and books written by those whose names they bear. Many interpretations and more constructions were given to the texts of the originals than you or any other mortal are aware of.
The Bible as now written and as I translated it, is full of contradictions and errors and makes the truth hard to ascertain. Take for instance that one subject of the blood redemption.
No greater error was ever written than that the blood of Jesus saves from sin - or that his blood washes away sin.
It seems to me now so absurd that I wonder and am astonished that I could ever have believed in such an absurdity.
I know now that there is no efficacy in Jesus' blood to accomplish any such results, and the pity is that many men now believe this and, as a consequence, neglect the one vital and important requirement necessary to salvation - that is the New Birth. This and this only saves men from their sins and fits them to enter the Kingdom of God, which is the Kingdom of Jesus, for he is the Prince of that Kingdom, and the Ruler thereof.
Jesus never said any such thing, for he has told me so. This saying that his blood was shed for many is not true. He never said it, neither did he say "drink the wine," being his blood, in remembrance of him, for the wine is not his blood, and neither does it represent anything that has to do with him or his mission on earth, or his present work in the spirit world. How unfortunate that this saying is made to represent something that he did not say.
So in order to understand the real truths of God and man's relationship to Him and His plan of salvation, you must believe what the Master shall write you and what his apostles may write, for now they understand what his true mission was, and what he attempted and intended to teach when on earth, and what he is teaching now.
I also will write sometimes and give you the result of my instructions and knowledge as I received them since being here. I will not write more tonight.
Your brother in Christ,
Martin Luther
Received by James Padgett
Washington, D.C.
I am here, Luther - Martin Luther.
I came again because I want to tell you that I was with you this afternoon when you were reading the comments on the origin and different versions of the Bible. Among them was a reference to my version, and I want to say that while my version was a pretty correct translation, yet, the manuscripts and other versions upon which I based my translation were not the real writings of those who profess to have written them. I mean that those manuscripts were not true copies of the original epistles and books written by those whose names they bear. Many interpretations and more constructions were given to the texts of the originals than you or any other mortal are aware of.
The Bible as now written and as I translated it, is full of contradictions and errors and makes the truth hard to ascertain. Take for instance that one subject of the blood redemption.
No greater error was ever written than that the blood of Jesus saves from sin - or that his blood washes away sin.
It seems to me now so absurd that I wonder and am astonished that I could ever have believed in such an absurdity.
I know now that there is no efficacy in Jesus' blood to accomplish any such results, and the pity is that many men now believe this and, as a consequence, neglect the one vital and important requirement necessary to salvation - that is the New Birth. This and this only saves men from their sins and fits them to enter the Kingdom of God, which is the Kingdom of Jesus, for he is the Prince of that Kingdom, and the Ruler thereof.
Jesus never said any such thing, for he has told me so. This saying that his blood was shed for many is not true. He never said it, neither did he say "drink the wine," being his blood, in remembrance of him, for the wine is not his blood, and neither does it represent anything that has to do with him or his mission on earth, or his present work in the spirit world. How unfortunate that this saying is made to represent something that he did not say.
So in order to understand the real truths of God and man's relationship to Him and His plan of salvation, you must believe what the Master shall write you and what his apostles may write, for now they understand what his true mission was, and what he attempted and intended to teach when on earth, and what he is teaching now.
I also will write sometimes and give you the result of my instructions and knowledge as I received them since being here. I will not write more tonight.
Your brother in Christ,
Martin Luther
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